"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
10/26/2020 at 13:23 • Filed to: None
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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
10/26/2020 at 13:23 • Filed to: None | 0
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Everything went fine at with the surgery. Tooth is out, I’m mostly lucid not much pain, at least until the local wears off. The gauze in my mouth sucks.
We got up early to be at the DMV this morning so my son could get his license. Then he drove himself to school, f irst time he’s driven alone. He parked, went inside to get his parking permit, and came out to find a hole had been smashed in the sunroof of the Civic. Now sure how this could have been an accident. Looks to me like somebody hit it with a rock or a hammer. As he drove home, the entire thing spiderwebbed and more of it caved in. And to top it all off, we haven’t had rain here for six weeks at least and today it’s raining. Any my garage is too full of crap to allow it to be parked there. We’ve covered it as best as we can, but water always finds a way.
The initial hole that my son discovered
How it spread by the time we got home. The initial hole is at the bottom.
He and my wife are going back to talk to the SRO and see if there is any security camera footage. I’m having a hard time believing this is an accident.
Do I have to go to Honda to get this repaired, or will Safelite or Binswanger or somebody fix this?
Dammit.
avalonian
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:27 |
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I believe safelite does work like this. But more likely than not its probably gonna be at honda. But seriously what a shitty thing to happen that definitely looks like vandalism.
Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:28 |
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Hmmm I don’t know... S eems a very strange form of vandalism.
MonkeePuzzle
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:28 |
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high schoolers suck. my car was keyed multiple times. I suspect my lack of care (as it was a POS) resulted in them not doing it in secret, they started waiting for me to show up then keying it in front of me. yay bullies.
lots of schools have cameras on their parking, any chance the school can help identify what happened?
ahh, having typed this last sentence I went back to you post and saw you were planning the same.
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ttyymmnn
> Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
10/26/2020 at 13:31 |
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My wife is at the school talking with the SRO. He said he went through an hour of tape but didn’t see anything. There were guys working with weed whackers and mowers. I suppose it’s possible that the big riding mower tossed a rock. Pretty freak accident if so.
Thomas Donohue
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:33 |
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He didn’t park in Chariot’s spot, did he?
(I meant to add ‘That really sucks’ after the attempt at humor, because that really sucks. Sorry!)
Just Jeepin'
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:33 |
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Yeah, my money is on an accident. Despite human shittiness, physics is far crueler.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:35 |
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That’s shitty. Here’s something shittier. If you end up fixing that yourself, you’ll have to drop the headliner.
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> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 13:36 |
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Wow, that really really sucks actually. Just terrible people being bullies or did you do something to them?
For Sweden
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:36 |
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The junkyards should have a replacement sunroof.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:37 |
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Damn! That sucks! that’s a pretty random occurrence to have happen, and I can’t see how there’s anything your son did that could have caused it! Hopefully there’s some security camera footage so you know what happened? I bet it’s not going to be cheap though...th
ose
panels are often bonded to the runners they use for opening and closing...
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> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:37 |
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That is a really weird thing to have happen. I’ve never heard of sunroofs shattering by proximity to lawn care but I’ve also never heard of someone shattering sunroofs for sadistic pleasure.
Party-vi
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:38 |
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This should be easy to remove and install the replacement glazing. I did a new seal on an Integra sunroof and it’s like, a handful of bolts IIRC. Very DIY-able. The hard part will be getting all of the broken glass out of the rails or mechanism.
kanadanmajava1
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:38 |
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I do remember seeing such mover tossing rocks accident in some dashcam compilation. But it does require extremely bad l uc k. At least the rock didn’t caught anyone’s head while flying...
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:38 |
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Shit
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MonkeePuzzle
> Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
10/26/2020 at 13:39 |
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I suspect they just sucked. They did verbally say that the reasoning was that my crappy car shouldnt be parked near their nice cars in the good parking lot, that I belonged in the dirt lot further away. I went to a school in a wealthy mountain area, so numerous brand new
porsches and such in the student lot. a contrast to my then decade old subaru.
also got in trouble for risking a football players chances at playing in the big game that week because he beat me up... so like... it was as if a high school TV drama had c
ome to life. I was dumbfounded.
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:39 |
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This seems like what occured. I’ve seen it happen IRL.
Find out the landscaping firm and pursue.
ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:40 |
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Super shitty, sorry to hear. And what a crappy first day of driving alone for your son too. Hope he doesn’t feel too badly about this.
Is this a fixed sunroof or one that opens and closes? When we lived in SF my wife’s Liberty got broken in to through the moonroof (who does this?!) - cheapest option was to find a replacement panel online , repair it myself (was pretty easy, just some screws on and off), and vacuum the car as best as I could (esp make sure you’re not leaving any glass behind in the railings) . If you can get it taped up and keep it dry for the time being might be an option if it’s something that looks relatively easy.
ranwhenparked
> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 13:40 |
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Wow, the worst things that ever happened at my school was a friend had his Cougar completely filled top to bottom with snow (but he actually walked in on it while they were doing it, and helped them finish, so I don't think he cared?) plus another friend had someone take a dump on the windshield of his Integra, but he knew who did it and somehow thought it was funny.
user314
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:40 |
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Sooner or later, the Golden BB catches us all.
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> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 13:48 |
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Wait, so they targeted you because a star football player could have gotten injured beating you up? Wow, I do not miss high school at all.
Though I also would have been quite furious if someone keyed my near decade old compact car. And of course their solution to a “crappy car” being parked near them is to make it look even worse. People are terrible.
Boxer_4
> Party-vi
10/26/2020 at 13:53 |
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The worst part of replacing any tempered auto glass is the cleanup. You almost never find all the pieces at first.
I had a rear quarter window break in my 09 Forester from highway debris, but the factory tint seemed to hold it together (I continued for 50 or so miles that way, probably not advisable).
My dad had a front passenger window shatter on his 01.5 Passat in zero degree weather just from closing the door. We were still finding pieces of glass for several years after the fact.
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MonkeePuzzle
> Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
10/26/2020 at 13:53 |
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oh no, that was merely a coincidence. the starter of that “fight” (which I use in quotes as I am non-violent and took a few punches but
didnt retaliate) was that I was sitting on a seat reserved for seniors only. I was a senior, so....
so punches thrown, crowd gathered, I was hauled away by the collar of my shirt my some teacher. the multiple football players involved were not reprimanded.
#justice
InFierority Complex
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 13:56 |
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just slap one of these over it. Nobody will ever know the difference.
PS9
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:00 |
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Me: I can throw a rock into orbit.
Friend: Liar.
Me: *in florida, turns towards Texas, throws rock
, it disappears into the sky*
Friend: Oh whatever, that thing never left the ionosphere.
Me: The what?
Friend: Forget it, lets go get some burgers.
...
Me today: Wow ttyymmnn, that sucks. Really specific damage toooo...uhh...oh. I...I gotta go, good luck man!
MUSASHI66
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:01 |
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My brother in law had the same random broken sunroof on his Lexus GX, just out of the blue.
My wife was tailed by a crazy F loridian because “she chucked a rock into her sunroof and broke it” on a dirt road in Colorado.
It’s freaky, but it happens, it’s just glass and rocks fly everywhere.
dogisbadob
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:08 |
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If you have full coverage insurance, they will cover the sunroof. Safelite doesn’
t do sunroofs, but that’s ok because there are likely better local
places to go in your area anyway.
Textured Soy Protein
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:09 |
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Reminds me of when I was in high school, the weekend around Halloween, my dad woke me up to inform me that someone had tossed a pumpkin through the back window of “my” ( handed down from him) Acura Legend. It was parked in front of our house and some kids decided this would be fun. I heard rumors of who it might’ve been but never confirmed it. Le sigh.
subexpression
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:11 |
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I wouldn’t have a regular auto glass shop do a sunroof (I’m not even sure how many are willing to try). I ’d go to Honda, o r maybe check some other body shop if you have one you like .
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> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 14:16 |
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Well that is a tremendous injustice.
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ttyymmnn
> user314
10/26/2020 at 14:25 |
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This would have been one of those big sit down mowers, the one you control with the two side handles.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:31 |
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Ugh... sorry to hear it.
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ibRAD
> Boxer_4
10/26/2020 at 14:35 |
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Seems anything glass breaks and you’re finding pieces for forever after.
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ttyymmnn
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
10/26/2020 at 14:37 |
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The very first time my son drove by himself. What are the chances?
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ibRAD
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:38 |
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Definitely possible. Sucks though. On the first day!
phenotyp
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:44 |
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Occam’s razor, there.
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ttyymmnn
> ibRAD
10/26/2020 at 14:44 |
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I know, right? What’re the odds?
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:48 |
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I’m sure he was mortified when he saw the damage. Poor kid.
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ibRAD
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:52 |
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Slim! Hey, the first day my dad let me drive to school I got arrested for shoplifting at lunchtime so you did OK!
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ttyymmnn
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
10/26/2020 at 14:52 |
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I’m sure he was. I heard about it right before I went under.
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ttyymmnn
> ibRAD
10/26/2020 at 14:56 |
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I hope you aren’t writing this from San Quentin.
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ibRAD
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 14:58 |
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Actually I got off legally because so some mess up at the court,
but my dad had their back
. that was a long,
long
time ago. I haven’t stolen any Aerosmith CDs since!
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 15:04 |
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Learning a lesson very early: cars (and everything related to them) are expensive, and the point of an emergency fund is that there’s just no way to plan for everything...
I suggest this new family saying for when things fail to go as planned:
Yeah, well
, sometimes a mower ch
ucks a big rock into your sunroof...
MM54
> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 15:08 |
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Sometimes all it takes is hitting back once and they’ll stop. Just sayin’
Or people are dumber now than ever, which seems likely.
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MM54
> Boxer_4
10/26/2020 at 15:09 |
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I’ve found bits of
glass in my rx7 on the passenger’s side (under the carpet, etc)
which happened long enough ago that it’s got an OEM replacement window and I didn’t know it had ever been broken.
smobgirl
> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 15:10 |
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Never understood the logic when they deliberately damage an already-shitty car. You’d think it wouldn’t be worth the effort. Oh boy, you keyed a car that’s half primer, what a badass.
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MM54
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 15:13 |
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That sucks man, no idea what goes into replacing that glass but I always recommend against safelite based on awful experience with them.
Heavy plastic and electrical tape may help - yes, electrical tape. It’s waterproof. Do a tidy job (wrinkles in the tape will leak)
and it should stay pretty well sealed for a while. Tape may leave some goop behind later but it’s much easier to remove than duct tape residue (which isn’t waterproof in the first place).
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MonkeePuzzle
> MM54
10/26/2020 at 15:36 |
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while in some cases I think the appropriate response is to attempt to cease violence, perhap s with force, I would vote that the 90% case is to not retaliate and escalate.
TheRealBicycleBuck
> Boxer_4
10/26/2020 at 15:36 |
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The glass in the back door of our house is tempered. We found out when there was a fire and the fireman kicked through the glass. There was glass throughout the living room and kitchen, nearly into the dining room at the front of the house.
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MM54
> MonkeePuzzle
10/26/2020 at 15:38 |
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In the context of high-school bullies, I will agree to disagree with you
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ttyymmnn
> MM54
10/26/2020 at 15:39 |
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His friend’s mom helped him put some plastic over it, then I put an additional large leaf trash bag and then a waterproof (I think) ground cover. It’s not raining right now, and it’s not predicted to be heavy. I think we’ll be okay.
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MonkeePuzzle
> MM54
10/26/2020 at 15:42 |
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in the context of a school that was punishing the victims and not the aggressors , you might indeed be correct.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 15:45 |
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The size and shape of the initial hole looks suspiciously like the heel of a shoe. Kids being kids, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone climbed on top of the car and accidentally stepped on the sunroof. Given the stupid things my friends and I did when we were his age....
Not to lay blame on your son, but if he were my son, we’d be having a lo n g talk. My son has tried to lie to get out of bad situations, but he’s a terrible liar and we usually catch him if we push him a bit.
Good luck with it.
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ttyymmnn
> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/26/2020 at 16:18 |
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The SRO looked at the security cam footage and didn’t see anything except the landscapers.
Chariotoflove
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 16:39 |
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Shit. Well I’m going to give the kid the benefit.
I hope your mouth perks up in time for dinner.
Only Vespas...
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 17:05 |
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Condolences. Yes, it is really annoying. In the big scheme of things...yo u will forget about it in a month. Nobody got hurt. The car [ the metal p art] isn’t damaged. Relax and enjoy your throbbing jaw!
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ttyymmnn
> Only Vespas...
10/26/2020 at 17:17 |
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Still waiting for it to stop bleeding.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 19:44 |
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Could they see the car? Could they tell when it happened?
My aunt was shocked when her son needed a new rear tire. She ignored the fact that it was the right-rear tire and the wheel well was lined with bits of rubber. Apply Occam’s razor. If the hole is big, there wasn’t a rock to be found, the cameras didn’t see any reason for the broken sunroof....
I’d hate to think my son would have damaged his own truck, but I’ve already seen him run over two curbs. One of his buddies is now carless. I asked what happened. The kid turned left in front of somebody and was hit. He still insists it wasn’t his fault.
I hope you guys figure it out and it wasn’t your son or one of his buddies.
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ttyymmnn
> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/26/2020 at 20:21 |
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I have absolutely no reason to suspect that he had anything to do with it. There is video of him getting out of the car and meeting with a friend . I don’t know if there’s video of him returning to the car with his friend. At this point, I have absolutely no reason not to believe him.
That said, I was about his age when I was driving around with friends in my parent’s Caprice when I stopped paying attention and hit a curb, blowing the tire. I changed it, then went home and told my parents that I was driving and somebody crossed the centerline and I swerved to avoid him. It was a damn lie, of course. But my brother was the problem child back then, and I generally skated under the radar.
That said, I really have no reason to doubt him or his friend who was with him. Everything was fine when they parked, and they discovered it when thy got back outside. My son did say that he found a piece of rock on the roof, but he threw it in frustration. He and his mom went to look for it, but ther e was other debris in the lot. Looking at where and how he was parked, I’m not sure I buy the lawnmower theory . My best guess is that some dumbass was throwing rocks and hit our car. Though again, there is no video evidence. The SRO said she “watched a full hour of video,” but she probably really just fast forwarded through it to look for somebody by the car.
Since this was not a driving incident, we will meet with an adjustor. I imagine he/she will try to find liability elsewhere. I’d love to watch that security video at regular speed. I’m not sure what it shows, where it was shot from, how much it can see. It would be nice if the adjustor can find some liability, since we have a $1,000 deductible on the comprehensive.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> ttyymmnn
10/26/2020 at 20:30 |
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It sucks when stuff like this happens.
I had a number of incidents over the years. I wrecked someone else’s motorcycle. I wrecked my own truck within the first few months of driving. I blew out the back window of my mom’s car (I didn’t measure the load right and it hit the rear glass when I closed the hatch). I warped TWO heads in two incidents by letting my truck overheat (the first time really wasn’t my fault). The list could go on and on....
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ttyymmnn
> TheRealBicycleBuck
10/26/2020 at 20:41 |
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My record is a little better than that. But it’s a shitty way for my son to start his driving career. This also sidelines him from driving.